Thursday, September 25, 2008

The Controversy over Churches Meeting with Ahmadinejad

The groups who supported the rights of conscientious objectors in World War II (American Friends Service Committee and the Mennonite Central Committee) along with some new organizations (Quaker United Nations Office, Religions for Peace and the World Council of Churches) invited Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to share a meal with them tonight after sunset (in respect to Ahmadinejad's participation in the celebration of Ramadan). And they are getting reamed for it.

Here is a completely biased news story on it that provides no comments from the peace groups.

Would Jesus eat a meal with Ahmadinejad?

10 comments:

mindbender said...

Biased reporting? From Fox News?!? Say it ain't so!!

Regan Clem said...

I know. It shocked me. Now who will I trust?

Barry said...

Several things:
1)What exactly was biased in the story?
2)What was the stated purpose of the meeting? The article says it was to "honor" Ahmadinejad. Is there somewhere that says otherwise.
3)Of course Jesus wouldn't have shared a meal with him. Because Rome would have executed anyone who'd made the comments about and threatened them the way Ahmadinejad has the USA. So Jesus wouldn't have had the opportunity. Either way, he would definitely not have attended something "honoring" him.

Regan Clem said...

Biased in that it only shared quotes from one side. Never did it ask any of the Mennonites and Quakers for their viewpoint. They only quoted people against the meal.

I read an article previously and it did not say that the meeting was to honor Ahmadinejad. The burden of proof is on them to show that the Quakers and Mennonites wanted to honor him. I find it preposterous to believe that the Mennonites want to honor him unless it is honor just for him being a fellow human.

We must worship different Jesuses.

Regan Clem said...

Here is the text of the invitations sent out:

An invitation to an international dialogue between religious leaders and political figures:

“Has not one God created us?”

The significance of religious contributions to peace

It is an honor to invite you to participate with religious, cultural, and political leaders in a conversation about the role of religions in tackling global challenges and building peaceful societies at an Iftar – a dinner to break the Ramadan fast.

In the presence of

§ His Excellency Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the President of the Islamic Republic of Iran

With contributions from

§ His Excellency Miguel D’Escoto Brockmann, President of the General Assembly of the United Nations

§ His Excellency the Rev. Kjell Bondevik, former Prime Minister of Norway and President of the Oslo Center for Peace and Human Rights

§ and distinguished religious leaders

This conversation is the fourth in a series of high-level bridge-building and reconciliation efforts that have helped to build mutual understanding between our peoples, nations and religious traditions. It is our hope that as religious and political leaders, this communal meal and exchange of views will enable us to explore faith perspectives for dealing with global issues such as poverty, war and prejudice while deepening mutual understanding.

The dinner will be at the Grand Hyatt Hotel, 109 East 42nd Street, New York, N.Y., on Thursday, September 25, 2008, beginning with evening prayers from several religious traditions. Please arrive by 6:00 pm to clear security. Following dinner and presentations, the moderator will open the floor for comments and discussion.

Please note, entrance to this event is by limited invitation only. Some members of the media have been invited to cover the event.

RSVP by e-mail to sept25@us.mcc.org no later than Monday, September 15, 2008, confirming you interest in participation and sending us your mailing address. After confirmation of your participation, we will send a card explaining procedures for entry to the event.

The Sponsoring Committee welcomes your participation and appreciates the cooperation of the Permanent Mission of the Islamic Republic of Iran to the United Nations in co-hosting this event.

American Friends Service Committee

Mennonite Central Committee

Quaker United Nations Office

Religions for Peace

World Council of Churches – United Nations Liaison Office


****

Nothing there saying that it is a meal in honor of Ahmadinejad. Calling it a meal as such would be bias.

This sounds like the purpose of the event: "It is our hope that as religious and political leaders, this communal meal and exchange of views will enable us to explore faith perspectives for dealing with global issues such as poverty, war and prejudice while deepening mutual understanding."

I think Jesus would go.

Barry said...

Well we can do that pretty easily...from the Quakers web site...
"several international political and religious leaders will meet for an iftar dinner, which marks the end of each day’s fasting during Ramadan." So celebrating a Muslim meal.

"A major purpose is to continue dialogue with the Iranian people and their president."
Something our government has asked group not to do for the time being. So they are not submitting to our governing authorities.

"These encounters cannot be but a respectful exercise of dialogue, but they do not in any way intend to honour any one of its participants or mean that participants endorse each other's views,"
Shows Fox is either ignorant or purposely misleading.

Check out the site of the "Permanent Mission of the Islamic Republic of Iran to the United Nations". I'm not sure any Christian group let alone any peace loving group would buy that propaganda or help promote it.

Regan Clem said...

http://hansmast.com/2008/09/mcc-and-ahmadinejad-2/

That is an interesting read. He argues that Jesus would eat with Ahmadinejad, but the writer disagrees with the Mennonite's pacifism and believes in nonresistance.

Barry said...

I don't think Jesus would be invited. Maybe, Rob Bell though.

Barry said...

Oh, and all those sites are biased and not to be taken seriously because they only include positive quotes and perspectives.

Regan Clem said...

They aren't journalism, so they are expected to be bias.

Who knows, Rob Bell might be there.