Tuesday, April 15, 2008

How far is too far?

I have been reading and researching more on conscientious objectors in the twentieth century. I found one story extremely challenging to my faith. It is a personal story from the book I Couldn't Fight. It has caused me to wonder: "How far is too far in regards to nonresistance or is there never a too far?"

Lloy Kniss wrote his story in regards to the time he spent in training camp as a man of conviction in regards to violence during World War I. This war was the worst period in our nation's history in regards to the treatment of the group the government labeled conscientious objectors. Lloy, like many other conscientious objectors, was ridiculed, mocked, and eventually beaten for his stance to not fight. The main flaw in the governments system was that they attempted to break the objecotrs by throwing them into the normal training camps. That created an environment for scorn, abuse, and murder in a few unfortunate cases. It was successful in breaking the faith of many men who were convicted of nonresistance, but there were others who stood firm to their convictions. Lloy was such a man.

The following excerpt has forced me to think about whether I am truly following Christ and carrying my cross or whether I just like wearing a cross necklace. (I really do not wear a cross necklace.)

The next day Sergeant ------- (he did not include the name) came to the tent and called me to go with him. I think I had refused to do something he wanted me to do. He took me into the large bathhouse. He and I were in there alone. He locked the doors. He told me to stand at a certain place. Then he asked me a question that made me either recant my position or say no, which would displease him. I did not answer in his favor, so he hit me in the face with his fist. He was a very large man and very strong. He asked me another question, and then hit me in the face with the flat hand. He repeated this many times, alternating his fist and his flat hand, or he would wring my nose or bump my head against the stud in the wall. He would hold me by my hair with his left hand, to keep me from falling when he hit me with his right hand. My eyes were hurting, my nose was bleeding, and my lips were cut and bloody. For a week or two I had black eyes and a swollen face. He never hit me again after that. But I was fortunate because he was unfair in my favor. He mistreated some of the other boys much worse than me. It made me almost wish he had been harder on me, or better yet, that he had not been so rough with the others. He broke a number of bones in others.

Evidently this was never reported to Washington, D.C. These officers would have lost their positions if we had reported them. Someone asked me later, "Why didn't you report him to Washington?" My answer was simply, "Then where would have been my nonresistance?" These men felt safe because they knew we would not report them. This was a compliment to our sincerity. In the case where they put the uniform on me, I reported to my parents, and they, in turn, to Washington, but that was a different case because I wanted to get rid of the unifrom. This did not bring any punishment to him. Being beaten is different from being forced to do something wrong as far as the law is concerned.


I am left with the thought that I am just non-violent, not non-resistant. But is that what I should be. Is non-violence really turning the other cheek or walking the extra mile? Is it really loving my enemies? Non-violence would allow me to report the pricks that beat me and have them removed from their positions. Non-violence allows me to fight in every way except physical against those who are destroying the environment, fighting wars, or just trying to make me pay a bill that I should not have to pay. Non-resistance seems to be a complete lifestyle of turning the other cheek. Part of me wants to say that it worked for him but it was a just a choice. I am not required to follow such a radical path.

Then I see Lloy's heart. He held no bitterness toward those who wronged him. He reminds me of Jesus on the cross. That is an incredible thing. Then I examine my heart; it is not nearly as pure. I would want to get an officer fired who beat me. I would proclaim, "Father, convict them for what they do!" I would argue that I am submitting to the law of the land and they are also under that same law. If they break the law, they should be reported. For if I do not report him, then other people will also receive unecessary beatings. Is it loving to report the man so others would not receive beatings or to love the man who beat me by not reporting him? If only loving were not grey at times.

I just cannot see how one can function practically in the world being nonresistant. Maybe I have too little of faith. I used to have the view that non-violence could not be practically lived out. It might be time to take another step, or maybe that step is just one step too far. How far is too far? Is there such a thing a too far in regards to following Christ?

Later in the story, Lloy shares this story. I find his story an amazing testimony. Whether it was the same man that gave him that specific beating or not, the essay is not clear.

At Pittsburgh I had to change trains. It was late in the evening when the train arrived. The depot was filled with people. As I was going from one train to the other, a young man came out of the crowd and wanted to shake hands with me. I did not recognize him at all. He was very much surprised that I did not know him. Now he was in civilian clothes. When I saw him last in Camp Greenleaf, he was in uniform. He was a corporal then.

He was discharged before I was. His home was in a suburb north of Pittsburgh. He said, "I found out that you were coming through here tonight on your way home, and I came to meet you to apologize to you for the way I treated you in camp." He had been a bit rough with me several times. I assured him that I held nothing against him. In fact, this is the way I still feel today toward all the officers wo did not understand me and so mistreated me.

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

There is the realization in which I struggle... trying to live out the giving up of our rights in a society where everyone screams their independence. What a dichotomy. I have to remember that I have given up the right to be angry, pissed off and wronged. I laid that down at the foot of the Cross, not when I became a "believer" but when I became a follower.

I remember a huge eye-opening experience I had at a Manning conference. I realized that when I read "consider others better than yourself," it was second nature for me to read it as "pretend others..." Not, realize that they are, truly believe it in your heart and accept, live and love accordingly. I was really good at "pretending" so that my real attitude towards them was never too far below the surface, they might even know the disgust I had for them as they slapped my face a second time as opposed to feeling the love I had for them, seeing my eyes weep for them in light of how He sees them. Not even with an agenda apart from my esteem for His command and example. He will know what to do with it.

I apologize if this comes across as though I think I have an answer. I do not. Or maybe I do, I am just no good at making a complete application. I do not know how far is too far or not far enough. I also recognize a number of circumstances that, if given the chance, there is little doubt how I would respond to certain "evils" and given a weapon they would fall by my hands and perhaps the soil would cry out against their blood. I am not proud of that or think it is the right answer or that I am justified.

Simply sharing my struggles in your question, attempting to connect in my own search.

"I know 'vengeance is mine, sayeth the LORD,' I just want to be about my Father's business." -R. Mullins

Regan Clem said...

Loved the Rich Mullins quote.

The struggle comes down to whether we ever need to do what is less loving in order to be loving to the whole. But I hate that question.

If I was in a training camp and was being abused, my silence allows those who come after me to also be abused.

Thanks for your thoughts. It is such a challenging subject.

shannoncaroland said...

Allow me to theorize with you, since we are dealing in the safety of the hypothetical.

If you resist (even non-violently) you can change some behavior.

If you do not resist (like Lloy), you could change hearts.

Of course, none of that is guaranteed. Resistance can change hearts, it's just less likely. Non-resistance may change nothing.

Regan Clem said...

Let me use another example for the concept of loving one person to the detriment of others.

Say that a person is no longer talented at playing a musical instrument because of their age. They used to be talented when they were given the job, but that talented has diminished over time. (This was the case when I was a youth minister in Alma.) The church refused to fire her from her position (the problem is better if it was volunteer but in this case it wasn't) because they loved her and did not want to be "cruel" to her and break her heart. Is it better to remain loving to her and allow her to play the organ which she enjoys doing? Or is it better to be loving to the congregation and the potential visitors and fire her from her position so that her playing is not a distraction from worship? Both options are loving actions.

The lovely organist is dead now, so we are not hurting anyone's feelings by discussing this. She was a great, loving, and caring old lady.

I think this story illustrates the dilemma faced in whether a CO like Lloy should have reported the abuse or not. How do we decide what is the right course of action when both actions can be loving?

The problem I have with myself going through this same line of thinking is that it opens the door to the argument against non-violence.

If we could just make one decision in isolation from all of the circumstances and ramifications around it, then it would be easy.

We would let the organist continue playing because that is loving to her. We would allow the man to beat us and not be reported because it is most loving to him. We would have a good musician play the instruments in worship because it is most loving to the congregation. We would not allow COs to be abused.

However, life isn't that simple. All of the decisions we make seem to be linked with many consequences.

Now, I must listen to the Obama-Clinton debate. Maybe they will deal with this.

Troy said...

Regan,
The title of this post is "How Far Is Too Far?". To go all the way, wouldn't it mean to separate yourself completely from all that is violent that is under your control? Not supporting violent music. Not playing violent video games. Not watching violent movies? Not watching boxing, wrestling, football and even hockey. All confrontational and violent. Since "non-violence" really needs to begin with a change of heart and not merely physical resistance to confrontation, can you really support/encourage/endorse the very small list of things above and still believe in your heart that you are truly non-violent? This is a genuine question and not accusing in any way. I know that you partake in some of the entertainment that I mentioned because I read your blogs. I'm just curious how you reconcile the two. Or maybe separating yourself from "all that is violent" is going too far? Legalistic maybe?
God bless,
Troy

Regan Clem said...

Good Thoughts, Troy.

Some people take non-violence as far as to stop eating meat. That would be a complete separation of an individual not being violent. I just took Isaac to the butcher shop where we saw cows hanging and how they butcher them for us to eat. I definitely do not go that far in regards to non-violence.

Most of us could all go further. So I am less violent than some and more violent than others. The key is to focus on love and not on non-violence. What can I do to be the most loving rather than what can I do to be non-violent? I believe if we focus on loving, it would encompass non-violence.

Shannon wrote a reply on my blog years back in regards to this subject. He might not still stand by it, but I like it.

"It has nothing to do with whether the actor is sinning, but whether I am sinning. You could have a lady taking a shower in a movie (last time I checked, God is not against showers), she may not be sinning, but I sure would be if I were to watch it.

Or from the other side, I could watch lots of sins and not have it be a sin for me. I could watch people, steal, gossip, brag, etc...

That's the deal. For most of us, most violent films do not cause us to want to be violent. Whereas, for most of us, most sexual films do cause to think sexually."

I would argue that if the woman was showering naked in front of a man that was not her husband in order to tantalize him, that would be a sin.

There is still the issue of whether we are condoning sin by watching football or boxing (if those are sins). But as for violence in a movie, nobody is committing a sin in making it and nobody is committing a sin in watching it unless they have a lust for violence from watching it. The violence is all fake.

On a side note. I did take my kids to a hockey game the other night and was very uncomfortable there with the glamorized fighting. It was much worse to me than boxing because boxing is a sport of discipline where the boxers have to refrain from being angry. At the hockey game, these guys appeared to be very angry at one another and wanted to hurt each other. I told my kids that people should not act that way. Maybe we should have left.